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Post by GTownWarHawks on Sept 30, 2004 15:47:33 GMT -5
He is palying right now and is one away from getting the record tied lets go Ichiro
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Post by GTownWarHawks on Sept 30, 2004 15:49:31 GMT -5
If all is right and the mariners get at lest one hit and not thrown out he will be up next
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Post by GTownWarHawks on Sept 30, 2004 15:58:43 GMT -5
Sorry for the tripple post but ichiro is up right now
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Post by GTownWarHawks on Sept 30, 2004 16:01:38 GMT -5
Strike strike Foul Ball Strike out swinging
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Post by CheesyChaz on Sept 30, 2004 16:30:45 GMT -5
i'm going to the game saturday, hopefully he can wait until then ;D
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Post by GTownWarHawks on Sept 30, 2004 16:35:10 GMT -5
Flied out
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Post by CheesyChaz on Sept 30, 2004 16:39:17 GMT -5
he just got robbed in his 4th atbat, i thought it was going to drop too
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Post by tigerbait99 on Sept 30, 2004 19:19:06 GMT -5
He is at 256 now.
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Post by ViNSaNiTy15UnC9 on Sept 30, 2004 21:11:34 GMT -5
I hope teams pitch around him the rest of the way out... haha
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Post by qcomdrj on Sept 30, 2004 21:18:59 GMT -5
First off, it's not really a good record. He has 47 MORE singles than the previous record holder. He also has 8 more games to set the record. Kind of like Roger Maris and his asterisk.
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Post by soonerfan07 on Sept 30, 2004 21:20:37 GMT -5
its still a great aclomplishment though
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Post by qcomdrj on Sept 30, 2004 21:25:36 GMT -5
its still a great aclomplishment though For a team 35 games below .500. Just like when A.Rod played for the Rangers, it obviously takes away from the team aspect. I would rather have a team of players, than 2 Ichiro's. If it made that big a difference, either he would lead in RBIs, or the guy behind him would. Neither do.
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Post by CheesyChaz on Sept 30, 2004 21:52:32 GMT -5
First off, it's not really a good record. He has 47 MORE singles than the previous record holder. He also has 8 more games to set the record. Kind of like Roger Maris and his asterisk. i was watching "i, max" today and he made a great point, if aaron had hit less homeruns than ruth by the time that he had played as many games as him should the record have had an asterisk? it doesn't matter how many games are in the season because a season's a season and if you're going to bring that up you should aslo bring up all the other variables that come into play, so we really have no idea if those extra 8 games are as much of an advantage as people are making it out to be, all i'm saying is that people shouldn't be taking away from ichiro's season just because he's played more games
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Post by tigerbait99 on Sept 30, 2004 22:00:48 GMT -5
First off, it's not really a good record. He has 47 MORE singles than the previous record holder. He also has 8 more games to set the record. Kind of like Roger Maris and his asterisk. You also have to keep in mind though that the game was different back then. Would the players of that day and age be competitive against the people we have playing today? Ichiro is going up against better athletes. And last time I checked a single was still considered a hit. I hope Ichiro gets the record. I hate it for him that the Mariners are terrible, their poor record really overshadows his accomplishment. Go ICHIRO!!!
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Post by qcomdrj on Sept 30, 2004 22:18:15 GMT -5
The point I'm trying to make is that teams with players setting records don't do well typically.
McGuire when he set the HR Record. Bonds when he set it. Sosa when he was going for it. Ichiro trying to get the most hits. Ripken going for the most consecutive games.
How many of those are teams that went at all, or very far into the playoffs? (Ripken at the end of the streak, I know they went to the ALCS in 96 or so). I don't mind people wanting to put players on a pedestal, but its a TEAM SPORT. They aren't helping the team, they're hurting it. Why else would the Rangers suddenly play better WITHOUT THEIR "BEST" PLAYER?
And simply put, yes, if the season ended at 154 games, Ichiro wouldn't have hit as many. He would have been 7 behind. Singles are hits, but that other guy had many more extra base hits. I will have to give props to Ichiro in this era of juiced balls to lack the ability to hit the long ball. He also does position hits well, and keeps away from people. Many of his hits come from his speed though, and running out the throw, not from hitting it. SI has a picture showing where all his hits are. There are way too many of them in the infield.
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