BIG 12

[soonerfan07]

My pick is OU, they have the returning Heisman trophy winner, their returning nearly all their starters, and they got in the number 1 running back in the country along with alot of other great talent.

[qcomdrj]

Well, since "Not Texas" wasn't a specific option......
KSU. Just to be different.

[bballfan21]

qcomdrj said:

Well, since "Not Texas" wasn't a specific option......
KSU. Just to be different.

Since "not Texas" isn't in the Big XII, I'll pick Texas

[txheel98]

It will not be Texas! Why? Because Mack can not win the big one!! He ALWAYS get out coached in big games!!! They have questions about depth at defensive end. Also, the defense is learning a new scheme this year. Who is going to play QB, Mock or Young? Who is going to step up at WR? There are two bright spots on this team however, O-line and RB? I do think that Benson is going to have a good season. That being said, I think it's OU's to lose.

[bballfan21]

txheel98 said:

It will not be Texas! Why? Because Mack can not win the big one!! He ALWAYS get out coached in big games!!! They have questions about depth at defensive end. Also, the defense is learning a new scheme this year. Who is going to play QB, Mock or Young? Who is going to step up at WR? There are two bright spots on this team however, O-line and RB? I do think that Benson is going to have a good season. That being said, I think it's OU's to lose.

Remains to be seen, but Texas should (as I say every year) should be a better team, and hell if I was in Vegas I would never bet red 5 rolls in a row...so I'm sticking my preverbial neck out and picking TEXAS

[qcomdrj]

Difference in Vegas is that you always have a 50% chance of red. So, you have a 3.125% chance of winning.
Texas does not have a 50% chance of winning each game. Probabilities are not additive because each team is different.
It does come down to coaching, because the man has talent playing.

[soonerfan07]

bballfan21 said:

Remains to be seen, but Texas should (as I say every year) should be a better team, and hell if I was in Vegas I would never bet red 5 rolls in a row...so I'm sticking my preverbial neck out and picking TEXAS

I wouldnt bet five years in a row either, but i would put my money on them this year. If some would have told me they would have raped texas the last 4 years i wouldnt have believed them, but the fact is OU is just a better team. They are similar in talent, but the coaching edge has to go to OU.

[bballfan21]

soonerfan07 said:

I wouldnt bet five years in a row either, but i would put my money on them this year. If some would have told me they would have raped texas the last 4 years i wouldnt have believed them, but the fact is OU is just a better team. They are similar in talent, but the coaching edge has to go to OU.

That's a good point, the Horns have been out coached, but do you think the loss of M. Stoops to Arizona, had a little to do with the big collapse at the end last year? and do you think it will affect their defense this year?

[soonerfan07]

bballfan21 said:

That's a good point, the Horns have been out coached, but do you think the loss of M. Stoops to Arizona, had a little to do with the big collapse at the end last year? and do you think it will affect their defense this year?

I think it might have something to do with their collapse last year. That and the media saying that even if they lose the big 12, their in the champ game. And jason white being hurt didnt help their cause either. We did pick up Bo Peline who helped Nebraska win a bowl game. He should be a good d coordinato.

[soonerfan07]

by the way, i cant believe im agreeing with a texas fan. wierd

[txheel98]

None of this changes the fact that Brown can't coach in the big game. It's not just OU and Stoops. How many big games did he win in the watered down ACC? O-fer against Florida St, even under the current horrific state of football in Chapel Hill, they managed to beat the Seminoles 41-10 2 years ago.

[bballfan21]

txheel98 said:

None of this changes the fact that Brown can't coach in the big game. It's not just OU and Stoops. How many big games did he win in the watered down ACC? O-fer against Florida St, even under the current horrific state of football in Chapel Hill, they managed to beat the Seminoles 41-10 2 years ago.

being a NC fan you sound a little bitter, he left your beloved University, it's ok I would be a little pissed off as well, if ya'll had stole our coach

[txheel98]

Actually I'm not really that bitter. I understand that it was the right decision for him professionally. If I were him, I would have done the same thing. However, I did move to Texas back in 1998, and now I live in Austin. What I'm talking about comes from watching him for 5 seasons here and for 10 seasons in North Carolina. His track record speaks for itself! He always gets out coached in the big game! We were happy in Chapel Hill with ten win seasons and an occasional run at the conference title, but that isn't going to fly down here! He has never, ever won a conference championship let alone a national title!

[bballfan21]

txheel98 said:

Actually I'm not really that bitter. I understand that it was the right decision for him professionally. If I were him, I would have done the same thing. However, I did move to Texas back in 1998, and now I live in Austin. What I'm talking about comes from watching him for 5 seasons here and for 10 seasons in North Carolina. His track record speaks for itself! He always gets out coached in the big game! We were happy in Chapel Hill with ten win seasons and an occasional run at the conference title, but that isn't going to fly down here! He has never, ever won a conference championship let alone a national title!

I concurr, and I think no matter what anyone says he (Mack) is on the hot seat if he don't beat f***ing Oklahoma

[soonerfan07]

bballfan21 said:

I concurr, and I think no matter what anyone says he (Mack) is on the hot seat if he don't beat f***ing Oklahoma

i sure hope they keep mack brown for years and years