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Post by CheesyChaz on Oct 2, 2004 16:52:32 GMT -5
no, your point is that 8 extra games are an advantage, and i'm saying that there is no way to know whether they are or not so why should we make two seperate records? how is that fair to ichiro or anybody else that breaks a record like that, it's a season record and ichiro broke it, it's that simple and i don't know what much else i can say
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Post by GTownWarHawks on Oct 2, 2004 16:58:21 GMT -5
amount of games means nothing really if we had two records then we would have to have two records for every singal season record there is
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Post by qcomdrj on Oct 2, 2004 20:00:01 GMT -5
no, your point is that 8 extra games are an advantage, and i'm saying that there is no way to know whether they are or not so why should we make two seperate records? how is that fair to ichiro or anybody else that breaks a record like that, it's a season record and ichiro broke it, it's that simple and i don't know what much else i can say It's not that simple. There are already two records for every record. What difference would 3 make. And 8 extra games are an advantage, because at the 154 game mark, Ichiro didn't have 257 hits. Was he saving up for the playoff push? I think not. And if you had new records, they would be the one's people remember anyway.
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Post by BrewCityBuck on Oct 2, 2004 21:05:42 GMT -5
The game difference sucks but every sport has that problem with records/games in a season.
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Post by CheesyChaz on Oct 3, 2004 1:13:52 GMT -5
It's not that simple. There are already two records for every record. What difference would 3 make. And 8 extra games are an advantage, because at the 154 game mark, Ichiro didn't have 257 hits. Was he saving up for the playoff push? I think not. And if you had new records, they would be the one's people remember anyway. i'm getting tired of hearing and saying the same thing over and over so let's just drop it
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Post by qcomdrj on Oct 3, 2004 1:20:13 GMT -5
First, the reason you keep hearing the same thing is because you don't actually answer it. Your total reasoning is that one season is one season, regardless of how many games in it. Does the 1994 strike shortened season count?
I'm all for dropping it, because this is never going to get anywhere, but maybe it will pad our post count so we can beat tigerbait this month.
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Post by GTownWarHawks on Oct 3, 2004 9:09:42 GMT -5
I thought he would end up with 265 but that would be vary hard right now
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Post by qcomdrj on Oct 3, 2004 17:33:57 GMT -5
Oh, I thought of another way that the Ichiro season argument can be debunked. Why don't playoff games count for hit totals? It's part of the season. Just because one team might get more games than another shouldn't matter, because it's one season.
See?
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Post by GTownWarHawks on Oct 3, 2004 17:44:43 GMT -5
That is a great way to keep this going I have no clue way this is it is part of a season did Fred McGriff play in any playoffs because then he would have 300 Homers most likely
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Post by soonerfan07 on Oct 3, 2004 17:45:44 GMT -5
That is a great way to keep this going I have no clue way this is it is part of a season did Fred McGriff play in any playoffs because then he would have 300 Homers most likely dont you mean 500 homers
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Post by GTownWarHawks on Oct 3, 2004 17:46:35 GMT -5
Yah I was thinking wrong but I he was in a playoff game he would have had 500 because he is like 3 or so short
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Post by CheesyChaz on Oct 3, 2004 18:28:12 GMT -5
Oh, I thought of another way that the Ichiro season argument can be debunked. Why don't playoff games count for hit totals? It's part of the season. Just because one team might get more games than another shouldn't matter, because it's one season. See? now you're starting to get desperate, it's called a regular season and a post season, meaning they aren't the same season and therefore have different stats, just drop it please
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Post by CheesyChaz on Oct 3, 2004 18:38:41 GMT -5
he finished the year with 262 hits in 704 at bats for a .372 average
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Post by qcomdrj on Oct 3, 2004 20:24:12 GMT -5
Really, cause playoff stats count for career stats. So why wouldn't they count for the season? Same calendar year and all. So why do you think they shouldn't count? Would the extra games possibly give someone AN ADVANTAGE?
Cause I think they would, given some people could play 21 more games.
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Post by CheesyChaz on Oct 3, 2004 21:30:20 GMT -5
since when do playoff stats count as career stats? i've never heard that before, barry bonds season homerun totals count for 703 homeruns and that's what it says for his career totals, and once again you're missing the point, obviously if say darin erstad got 260 hits in 162 games but ichiro got 261 hits in 180 games then that would be an unfair disadvantage to erstad, but we are talking about two very different and distant eras in baseball where we have no idea what the difference in skill was, are you ever going to stop with this?
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