irshbkr
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LET'S GO IRISH!!!
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Post by irshbkr on Sept 12, 2004 17:16:31 GMT -5
Why shouldnt there be a coaches poll? Because they dont worship the ground the ND team walks on like a lot of the AP members do? I am not an Idiot ND fan Like you seem to be an idiot Nebraska fan... Iknow their weaknesses and I don't expect them to win every game every year...It is idiots like you that think your teams could beat the world and when they do not you find a way to dog someone elses acheivements. All you have done since I got on this site and became a member is dog ND and WVU ...What is the matter with you? Your own insignifigant shortcomings at Nebraska this year make you a pityful little man? That has to find satisfaction in belittling everyone elses teams..At least most of us know what our team can and can't do ..Real college football fans don't rely on past accomplishments..I don't..YOu started the whole "ND is the most overrated team ever" arguement.. Not me.. and you lost that...I understand criticizing other teams but constantly being an ass is a show of your intelligence..so give it a rest pal...
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Post by PJ520 on Sept 12, 2004 17:17:29 GMT -5
Alright guys let's get back on topic or I'll lock this thread
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Post by tigerbait99 on Sept 12, 2004 18:19:41 GMT -5
I would say it is about even between Utah, and Fresno. If either team ran the table I would say they would have maybe a 40% chance of making a BCS bowl game.
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Post by huskersrule01 on Sept 12, 2004 18:25:32 GMT -5
There chances are much better now because the BCS no longer has a separate component that is for SOS
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Post by tigerbait99 on Sept 12, 2004 18:27:02 GMT -5
There chances are much better now because the BCS no longer has a separate component that is for SOS That is true, maybe we can watch a Oklahoma vs. Boise State Orange Bowl.
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Post by huskersrule01 on Sept 12, 2004 18:32:45 GMT -5
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Post by dpbroncos on Sept 12, 2004 23:27:04 GMT -5
The Fresno State history comment was from a couple years ago when they were "supposed" to get a BCS bid but lost to someone their last regular season game, ruining their cinderella story. Might have been to Hawaii or Boise. Fresno was terribly overrated in 2001 and lost *2* games. Boise was the first to beat them, and then they also lost to Hawaii.
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Post by dpbroncos on Sept 12, 2004 23:29:11 GMT -5
I would say it is about even between Utah, and Fresno. If either team ran the table I would say they would have maybe a 40% chance of making a BCS bowl game. Won't be Fresno. They're gonna get thumped on the Blue. Utah has the best chance with their schedule and pre-ranking. If BSU had been ranked where they should have been, they've got the best chance of actually winning the bowl game (no one can coach better then Hawk and coach P). Lots of football to be played, however.
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Post by YbrikTCU on Sept 13, 2004 0:13:06 GMT -5
I would say it is about even between Utah, and Fresno. If either team ran the table I would say they would have maybe a 40% chance of making a BCS bowl game. You know, I think that if any mid-major team runs the table, that team stands a VERY good chance of getting into a BCS bowl. Much better than 40 percent. Maybe 80 percent or so. It sorta depends on how many teams in BCS conferences are ranked higher than the mid-major in question but are NOT champions of their conferences. Consider: In 2003, my school, TCU, was undefeated until our next-to-last in-conference game. Before losing to Southern Miss, we had been ranked as high as 6th in the BCS (I seem to recall we were No. 8 the week of the $12 million loss) - back when the BCS formula included a separate factor for SoS, a factor that hurt TCU more than any other. Had we not lost, we still might not have gotten into a BCS bowl because of the late season craziness with OU and K State (although denying us a big bowl when OSU could still have one would have been difficult to justify at a time when the BCS was under major pressure about accessibility). My point is this: The human polls seem to like undefeateds late in the season, and since the BCS gives a LOT more weight to the human polls now, I think any undefeated mid-major will be ranked quite high in the BCS. Whether those teams get BCS bowls depends largely upon the situations with non-champions being ranked and with pressure upon the BCS about being accessible to the smaller conferences.
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Post by tigerbait99 on Sept 13, 2004 6:20:03 GMT -5
You know, I think that if any mid-major team runs the table, that team stands a VERY good chance of getting into a BCS bowl. Much better than 40 percent. Maybe 80 percent or so. It sorta depends on how many teams in BCS conferences are ranked higher than the mid-major in question but are NOT champions of their conferences. Consider: In 2003, my school, TCU, was undefeated until our next-to-last in-conference game. Before losing to Southern Miss, we had been ranked as high as 6th in the BCS (I seem to recall we were No. 8 the week of the $12 million loss) - back when the BCS formula included a separate factor for SoS, a factor that hurt TCU more than any other. Had we not lost, we still might not have gotten into a BCS bowl because of the late season craziness with OU and K State (although denying us a big bowl when OSU could still have one would have been difficult to justify at a time when the BCS was under major pressure about accessibility). My point is this: The human polls seem to like undefeateds late in the season, and since the BCS gives a LOT more weight to the human polls now, I think any undefeated mid-major will be ranked quite high in the BCS. Whether those teams get BCS bowls depends largely upon the situations with non-champions being ranked and with pressure upon the BCS about being accessible to the smaller conferences. Nice post. Point taken. GO UTAH!!!
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Post by soonerfan07 on Sept 13, 2004 15:32:19 GMT -5
This happens every year. THeres always some team from a mid-major confernce that almost gets into a BCS game then chokes in the last couple of weeks. Same will happen this year
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Post by tigerbait99 on Sept 14, 2004 19:57:26 GMT -5
This happens every year. THeres always some team from a mid-major confernce that almost gets into a BCS game then chokes in the last couple of weeks. Same will happen this year Will some of them choke......YES. However I think this year we have 3 legit mid-major contenders to go to a BCS bowl. Utah, Fresno, and Boise. 2 of them WILL choke the other will have a shot. That is my prediction. Aside from these 3 there a probably several others who could potnetially sneak in, among them Memphis, TCU, Southern Miss, and Louisville.
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Post by LOBOFLYER on Sept 15, 2004 1:37:12 GMT -5
Fresno St has the best chance of all the current contenders and heres why:
1. Fresno St- If they Beat Boise St., the rest of their scedule is on the ESPN Bottom 10. No other team they play stands a remote chance of beating them.
2. Boise St- Has 2 ?. Fresno St and BYU (If BYU decides to bring their "A" game) Other than that is smooth sailing for the Broncs.
3. UTAH- Has the talent but.....It will still be very hard to go undefeated in the Conference. UNM and BYU will pose the biggest threat, and I think one of those 2 teams will beat the Utes. But even CSU, SDSU, and UNLV has a so-so chance of an (most likely wont) upset.
4. Memphis- Has to get past TCU, L'VILLE, S. MISS. They are good but dont think they, or any team in Conf USA will run the Table
5. Troy- They have proven they can play with the big boys and will probably destroy everyone in the Sunbelt, but Someone screwed up and scheduled LSU...DOH!!!!
6. TCU- They will probably be out of the race this weekend when they have to travel to Lubbock and play Texas Tech. But even if they do win (and I Highly doubt they will) They still have S. Miss, Memphis, and L'VILLE. They wont Survive all of them.
7. L'VILLE- Who and Why the HELL did they sceduled Miami? Heres a gun go shoot yourself in the foot.
8. S. MISS- They have to beat Cal and everybody else in the conference. They are a good team but "not gonna do it"
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Post by YbrikTCU on Sept 15, 2004 3:06:01 GMT -5
LoboFlyer, Memphis and TCU do not meet this year. It is conceivable, although not terribly likely, that both could go undefeated.
And I think you underestimate the Horned Frogs' chances if we succeed in Lubbock this weekend. No, it's not easy sailing (we're not in the WAC anymore, after all), but in the past two seasons, we have beaten every one of our C-USA opponents this year at least once, twice in most cases (i.e. all but Cincy and Southern Miss).
My money's still on Boise State or Utah to make a run at the BCS. I hope it's Boise, to speed up its invitation into the Mountain West, and to give TCU somebody good to play (Utah) in the Liberty Bowl if we go.
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Post by soonerfan07 on Sept 15, 2004 8:13:42 GMT -5
TCU loses to Tech next week so we wont have to worry about them
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