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Post by huskersrule01 on Sept 26, 2004 15:38:46 GMT -5
Florida State is too high with one loss even though it was to Miami. Wisconsin- impressive D but still isnt has not beat anyone to make them be #11 Virginia #17??? They are 2-2. Shouldnt be a team in top 25 with 2 losses in 4 games. Michigan #33, still better than #33 especially after beating iowa Clemson #35? ?? they are 1-3m how can they be that high with that record. Do you even know how teams do before you post because if teams lose they probably shouldnt be moving up in rankings?
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Post by fullforce11 on Sept 26, 2004 16:15:52 GMT -5
Florida State is too high with one loss even though it was to Miami. Wisconsin- impressive D but still isnt has not beat anyone to make them be #11 Virginia #17??? They are 2-2. Shouldnt be a team in top 25 with 2 losses in 4 games. Michigan #33, still better than #33 especially after beating iowa Clemson #35? ?? they are 1-3m how can they be that high with that record. Do you even know how teams do before you post because if teams lose they probably shouldnt be moving up in rankings? Look, these rankings don't work the same way as the coaches or ap polls. For instance, if the best team in the nation plays the second best at home and wins a close game in OT, i will keep the number 2 team at the same ranking. Or... if the number one team in the nation plays rutgers and wins a close one, the number one team will move down. Not only do i look at the results of the game before posting, i look at how the game was played. Records are not everything in college football. Lets pretend that some time this season USC, Georgia, Miami, Florida State, LSU, Oklahoma, and Texas all lose 1 close game away from home to a solid football team, both polls would likely move West Virginia to number 1 if WVU stays undefeated. My polls will not. In regards to FSU, they lost in OT at Miami. How many teams in the nation would defeat Miami in the Orange Bowl this year? I don't think 5 teams could. Also, FSU dominated that football game and blew it at the end to get the L, i'm not sure they wouldn't beat Miami by 20 in Tallahasee (I think FSU may be the best team in the nation, but they haven't shown that yet.) Wisoconsin's defense has looked like one of the top 5 defenses early in the season, and i think there is only 1 team in the Big 10 that could defeat Wisconsin this year on a neutral field, and thats Ohio State. I don't understand the Virginia comment, they are undefeated and I have them ranked #6, Minnesota (also undefeated) is ranked # 17. Michigan (who is ranked #30) lost to Notre Dame, albeit in South Bend, and barely got by San Diego State at home, Iowa got crushed at ASU last week, Michigan would have to handle Iowa at the Big House in order to deserve a spot in the top 25. Clemson has lost in Tallahasee and in College Station, two incredibly hard places to play, i don't think there are 35 teams that could win in those environments. the GT loss at home was a bad loss, but i think GT is one of the most dangerous teams in the nation to have on a schedule.
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Post by tigerbait99 on Sept 26, 2004 16:46:34 GMT -5
Overall this is a pretty good list, however I do have a few problems.
-USC- #7 is about right, maybe a little low. -Auburn- #8 is too high. Auburn has a relatively one dimensional offense, and tends to struggle in games where they are forced to throw the ball. Maybe #11 or 12 is more appropriate. -Tennessee- Aside from their QB controversy this is a very talented team. Once they decide on which QB gets the starts, the Vols may win the SEC East or even the entire SEC. The Vols should be ranked ahead of Auburn. -Florida- To this point Chris Leak has not played up to the level he did last year. The Gators beat Kentucky 20-3 in the swamp, and that is not impressive. Florida should be around #17 or 18. -Arizona State-They have been impressive so far. However I think putting them at #15 is a bit much. 18 or 19 seems a little more appropriate to me, although 15 is still reasonable. -Utah- This is a good team. They should be ranked higher. I would put them around #15. -Virginia Tech- They have now lost 2. They should be in the bottom 5 of your top 40. Though they did outplay USC (and should have won), they are not worthy of that high ranking. -Purdue- They are far better than you give them credit for. I am not sure Purdue really took the Illini seriously, and it showed on Saturday. This may still be the best team in the BIG 10. -Notre Dame- Somehow this team keeps winning. I think they may actually be a top 20 or 25 team right now. Purdue will be a test for them. -Michigan- They have a young and inexperienced QB. The Wolverines will get it together in will be in good shape by mid season. -Clemson- They are now 1-3. They have played a tough schedule, but they still have not won. I would have them just out of the top 40. -Arkansas-They are now 3-1. The only loss coming to Texas. They beat 3-0 Alabama yesturday and they deserve a higher ranking. This is a young team, but Matt Jones will keep them in most games.
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Post by AFWX on Sept 26, 2004 16:47:21 GMT -5
Virginia is 4-0 not 2-2 I think you are thinking about VT. Michigan is better than 33 and Clemson is defineatelt not 35. Wisconsin and Fla St are probably about right. I dont agree with these homemade poles they are extremely biased (Clemson being rated as high as they are a good example). I will stick to the AP pole.
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Post by huskersrule01 on Sept 26, 2004 21:54:52 GMT -5
Yea, I meant Virginia Tech not Virgina.
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Post by huskersrule01 on Sept 26, 2004 23:41:56 GMT -5
Clemson may have played in tough locations but they still should have to win at least half to be that high. They have not even looked good at all in most of the games they have played. They lost to a good FSU team and got killed an average Texas A&M team and lost to a not very good Georgia Tech team. There only win is against Wyoming who is not good!!! There is no way they should be top 40 for the way they have played this year!!!!!
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Post by qcomdrj on Sept 27, 2004 2:02:54 GMT -5
Clemson hasn't played Wyoming. They played Wake Forest. Wake Forest is good, and Clemson beat them. GT did not beat Clemson, Clemson lost that game on their own. Clock management and a poor snap is one in the loss column.
Their season isn't over yet.
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Post by huskersrule01 on Sept 27, 2004 11:50:55 GMT -5
Yea, I meant Wake Forest. For they way Clemson has played and are 1-3, they shouldnt be ranked ahead of teams that are 3-1. They may improve and win later but then they can move up from there but at this point they arent worthy of a ranking. Beating yourself in games happends quite a bit, that is what Nebraska did against Southern Miss.
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Post by TTURedRaider67 on Sept 28, 2004 23:55:33 GMT -5
Thats the worst pole I have ever seen Clemson at 35! they may not even be in the top 100! Wake Forest 24 your joking right? Va Tech (2-2) at 17! that does not make any sense. Maryland and NC State are NOT top 25. Top 40 MAYBE. Ga Tech is not 30..they lost to North Carolina! Tex A&M is not 31 N Ill lost to Iowa st...they are not 40 K St and Missouri are probably not that high either
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Post by LOBOFLYER on Sept 29, 2004 2:48:45 GMT -5
Thats the worst pole I have ever seen Clemson at 35! they may not even be in the top 100! Wake Forest 24 your joking right? Va Tech (2-2) at 17! that does not make any sense. Maryland and NC State are NOT top 25. Top 40 MAYBE. Ga Tech is not 30..they lost to North Carolina! Tex A&M is not 31 N Ill lost to Iowa st...they are not 40 K St and Missouri are probably not that high either your right that pole is horrible
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Post by qcomdrj on Sept 29, 2004 12:35:14 GMT -5
I don't know about not in the top 100, but not in the top 40. Not yet anyway.
Wake Forest has only lost one game.
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Post by tigerbait99 on Sept 29, 2004 17:18:49 GMT -5
Does anyone here actually think USC is worthy of the #1 spot.
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Post by huskersrule01 on Sept 29, 2004 18:27:31 GMT -5
Does anyone here actually think USC is worthy of the #1 spot. No, but it wont change until USC loses or Oklahoma beats a really good team and probably have to win by a lot. ie vs Texas
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Post by fullforce11 on Oct 3, 2004 16:15:42 GMT -5
Last week I made a mistake and blanked on South Carolina and Stanford.
1. Georgia 2. Oklahoma 3. Texas 4. Miami 5. Florida State 6. Virginia 7. Auburn 8. USC 9. Wisconsin 10. California 11. Arizona State 12. LSU 13. Florida 14. Ohio State 15. Tennessee 16. Minnesota 17. Purdue 18. Maryland 19. North Carolina State 20. Virginia Tech 21. West Virginia 22. Louisville 23. Oklahoma State 24. South Carolina 25. Utah 26. Southern Miss 27. Boise State 28. Wake Forest 29. Texas A&M 30. Michigan 31. Georgia Tech 32. Fresno State 33. Clemson 34. Missouri 35. UAB 36. Kansas State 37. Colorado 38. Stanford 39. Nebraska 40. Notre Dame
just out: UConn, Northen Illinois, Arkansas, UCLA, Louisiana Tech, Iowa, Memphis, Alabama, Boston College, Texas Tech, BYU, Iowa State, Marshall, San Diego State, and Navy
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Post by huskersrule01 on Oct 4, 2004 12:10:39 GMT -5
#12 LSU- You didnt change their rank since last week after they got killed by Georgia #14 Ohio State- you drop them only 4 spots for losing to Northwestern? #20 Purdue- they are a lot higher than #20 and a lot better than quite a few teams that you have above them #28 Wake Forest- they lost to NC State and you only drop them 2 spots and when other teams win close you drop them more than that? ? #31 Georgia Tech lost big to Miami but yet you still left them in same spot? #33 Clemson- they are 1-3, how can you have a 1-3 team ahead of one loss teams. #37 Colorado- they lost yet they only drop 1 spot #39 Nebraska- didnt play well but still won and yet you have teams ahead of them that lost that you keep in same place??? You have a terrible bias towards the ACC when you dont drop the teams that lose and yet if other teams play close games and win you still drop them. There is no way there are 9 ACC teams in top 40. The poll in terrible and makes no sense for the most part.
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