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Post by BrewCityBuck on Aug 30, 2004 18:37:23 GMT -5
All I have to say is that there overhyped to the point that it's rediculous. Now because of the Olympics everyone thinks these International players that played well against us are stars. The truth is that we have weeded out most of Europe/Russia's good players. China, South America, and Africa are still not good enough.
-People that say International Basketball has caught up with ours are stupid. Many of these players that killed us in the Olympics weren't good enough to get a roster spot in the NBA. It's just a different league and people just don't understand that.
List of International Players that are better then the Average NBA player.
1. Tim Duncan
2. Dirk Nowitzki
3. Predrag Stojakovic
4. Yao Ming
5. Tony Parker
6. Emanuel Ginobili
7. Pau Gasol
8. Andrei Kirilenko*
If that is what people mean with "caught up" to the NBA they need to think again.
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Post by star5 on Aug 31, 2004 10:04:04 GMT -5
there is more then that like arrayo and kirelenko and Z and many others you left off.
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Post by bballfan21 on Aug 31, 2004 10:19:20 GMT -5
there is more then that like arrayo and kirelenko and Z and many others you left off. I think Jesse is caught up in the American Pride, trust me I am a proud American. But the fact of the matter is that the international players are coming in and playing better team basketball and that is what wins games, look at the last two NBA Champs great teams, not a couple of superstars playing well together...hate to say it Jes, but you're wrong |
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Post by BrewCityBuck on Aug 31, 2004 10:19:57 GMT -5
Forgot Andrei Kirilenko but Carlos Arroyo is only an average player at best.
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Post by BrewCityBuck on Aug 31, 2004 10:27:42 GMT -5
These guys are coming in and playing better team basketball. What the hell is your argument? For the most part these players come in and play well, all i'm saying is that International Basketball is not even close to being as good as ours. I don't care about the Olympics, that was a team thrown together in 2 weeks. I don't care if a bunch of average Greek's beat us because our US Team doesn't represent every team, bring that Greek team to the US to play the Spurs and they get beat.
These International players are so overrated it's irratating.
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Post by bballfan21 on Aug 31, 2004 10:35:18 GMT -5
These guys are coming in and playing better team basketball. What the hell is your argument? For the most part these players come in and play well, all i'm saying is that International Basketball is not even close to being as good as ours. I don't care about the Olympics, that was a team thrown together in 2 weeks. I don't care if a bunch of average Greek's beat us because our US Team doesn't represent every team, bring that Greek team to the US to play the Spurs and they get beat. These International players are so overrated it's irratating. The Spurs have 3 international players on the team, and playing without Nesterovich, Parker and Ginobili...I wouldn't be so sure.... |
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Post by BrewCityBuck on Aug 31, 2004 10:44:08 GMT -5
It's Radoslav Nesterovic and he's only an average Center. No kidding Parker, Duncan, Ginobili, are all great international players, I know that, but international players are not even close to being as good as the US.
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Post by bballfan21 on Aug 31, 2004 10:48:39 GMT -5
It's Radoslav Nesterovic and he's only an average Center. No kidding Parker, Duncan, Ginobili, are all great international players, I know that, but their not even close to being as good as the US. That's funny ....  |
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Post by BrewCityBuck on Aug 31, 2004 10:58:33 GMT -5
Do you actually have anything to add?
International Basketball is not as good as ours. Duncan, Ginobili, Parker are a few of the really good ones.
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Post by star5 on Aug 31, 2004 10:58:52 GMT -5
carlos arroyo isn't average. he is in his 3rd year and playing very well. there is also steve nash, samuel dalembert,
there are probably at least 30 above average to up and coming international stars. there's guys like nene and just a shit load more.
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Post by BrewCityBuck on Aug 31, 2004 11:07:33 GMT -5
Dalembert only blocks shots at this point, and Nash shouldn't count, he's Canadian. ;D
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Post by bballfan21 on Aug 31, 2004 11:25:24 GMT -5
Do you actually have anything to add? International Basketball is not as good as ours. Duncan, Ginobili, Parker are a few of the really good ones. I wish there were a few other opinions than ours, I think others would feel the same as I do...and as for me adding something it seems you have your mind made up, right or wrong...do you actually think? |
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Post by BrewCityBuck on Aug 31, 2004 11:28:02 GMT -5
My point is that international Basketball has not caught up to ours, and you think it has.
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Post by star5 on Aug 31, 2004 11:44:21 GMT -5
i agree it hasn't caught up but you are underrating them. dalembert will be a moster and that is easy to see.
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Post by BrewCityBuck on Aug 31, 2004 12:33:04 GMT -5
Underrating them? They have a few great players but it kind of proves my point that in just around 7 years we have most of their good players. You bring the players that whipped our ass's in the Olympics and have them play teams in the US, they get beat.
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